This episode features two guests: Steve Weber, the founder and faculty director of the Berkeley Center for Long-Term Cybersecurity, and Andrew Grotto, who served as senior director for cyber policy on the National Security Council during the Obama and Trump administrations. In this inaugural episode of the Policy2050.com podcast, they call into question the viability or sustainability of the decision-making frameworks, industry practices, and market conditions that presently define the cybersecurity landscape. They also paint a picture of what’s potentially at stake and what a reconfiguration of cybersecurity incentives might entail.

This episode touches upon the following key questions:

• What policies or even psychological considerations are exacerbating cybersecurity vulnerabilities?
• How do systemic inadequacies, or misconfigured incentives, ultimately jeopardize our innovations and potentially even our most sacred values?
• What’s the right response to state-sponsored cybercrime?
• And, is there a way to reinvent cybersecurity?

Steven Weber is the faculty director for the Berkeley Center for Long Term Cybersecurity. He works at the intersection of technology markets, intellectual property regimes, and international politics. His research, teaching, and advisory work focus on the political economy of knowledge intensive industries, with special attention to health care, information technology, software, and global political economy issues relating to competitiveness. He is also a frequent contributor to scholarly and public debates on international politics and US foreign policy.

Andrew Grotto is the William J. Perry International Security Fellow at Stanford University and the founding director of the Program on Geopolitics, Technology and Governance at the Stanford Cyber Policy Center. He serves as the faculty lead for the Cyber Policy and Security specialization in Stanford’s Ford Dorsey Master’s in International Policy degree program and teaches the core cyber policy course for the specialization. He is also a visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution. He served as senior director for cyber policy on the National Security Council during the Obama and Trump administrations from late 2015 through May of 2017.